OK, he didn’t say it so many words. But please, just try to convince me that Clemson’s Defensive Coordinator Vic Koenning meant something else when he said this to Clemson beat writer Paul Strelow of The State newspaper in Columbia:
Julio? You know what, I actually ran into Julio in the spring recruiting. I said hello to him and said, ‘I guess I’ll be seeing you at the end of August.’ Then he got out and got in his Escalade and drove off. That’s (being) serious. And then I went over and watched (Alabama freshman) Burton Scott at Vigor High School at the track over there, and Burton Scott was running around. He went and got in his Escalade out at track practice and drove off. So I’m familiar with those two guys.
UPDATE: Koenning made an effort to clear the air (may be subscription content) this morning, but in this writer’s opinion was unsuccessful.
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Libel? Pretty close at least. In a conversation with half a dozen reporters, the Clemson coach accused two 18-year-old kids of participating in a fraudulent conspiracy with the University of Alabama. At best he gets the public figure defense.
Libelous or not, it’s pretty irresponsible for this guy to blow his patootie off in front of that crowd. If he’s got the goods on somebody or something, he should lay his cards on the table. If he doesn’t, he should shut his frickin’ trap.
Nor is Koenning rescued by his running down one of the reporters a few minutes later to say he was “kinda kidding.” Is that like kinda pregnant, or kinda dead? How bout you kinda publicly apologize, and if you don’t, how bout if Clemson kinda fires you?
For the record, my money says he knows nothing and is just running his lip. I don’t know about Julio’s ride, but I do know that B.J. has been seen around town behind the wheel of a very non-Escaladesque vehicle.
UPDATE A “visibly distraught” Koenning tried to downplay his comments this afternoon in a meeting with reporters, but fell short of taking full responsibility for his words, claiming that his words were “taken out of context.”
Koenning said he had already spoken with former Clemson, and now Alabama running backs coach Burton Burns, who expressed understanding, and with one of the players’ former high school coaches, who “couldn’t figure out why I would say something like that.”
“That’s unfortunate. I feel bad for those young men,” he said. “That’s not fair to those two guys.”
“Asked if he had received any heat from Clemson’s office of compliance or Athletics Director Terry Don Phillips for his remarks, Koenning replied, `Not that I know of.’”
Later, in his response to a question about whether he was surprised about the response to his comments, Koenning replied, “Not knowing the way people are, especially in the state of Alabama… it was just a bad judgment on my part. I have to be careful now. Even if you say things in a joking manner, it can be misconstrued.”
Koenning implied that the episode had made him lose trust in the media: “It definitely damages relationships. That’s too bad. You build up a trust and candidness.”
“We talk about trust on defense. We talk about always telling the truth. If you tell the truth, most of the time it’ll be the right way to go.”
Clemson Head Coach Tommy Bowden also tried to downplay the incident. “It’s such a surprise a big thing was made of it,” Bowden said. “The guy made an off the cuff comment. I know they’re looking for things to write about and talk about on the Internet.”
My take: Coach Koenning, you did yourself no favors by blaming the media or by referring to your earlier remarks as “telling the truth.” And there was certainly no call for you to take another poke at “the way people are, especially in the state of Alabama.”
You said what you said, you said it to half a dozen reporters with their tape recorders whirring, and you’ve been around the major college football block often enough to know full well what that meant. Further, you made no indication whatsoever at the time that it was a joke.
It’s not the media’s fault, and it’s not the fault of all those weirdos in Alabama. Man up, take full responsibility, and apologize. Then we’ll all be happy enough to move on.
UPDATE 2
From al.com:
Meanwhile in Mobile, Vigor coach Kerry Stevenson was not amused, telling Press-Register columnist Mike Herndon that Koenning “better not come back on this campus.”
Koenning’s visit to Vigor, Stevenson said, occurred around the time of the school’s prom, and Scott had rented a sport-utility vehicle — Stevenson said he believed it was a GMC Envoy — to take to the dance. Stevenson said Scott’s car, a 1980s-model Cutlass, got stolen during a visit to Birmingham since he’s reported to Tuscaloosa.
“That’s defamation of character,” Stevenson said. “He just outright lied.”
At this point, you’ve got to think Koenning has cause to be concerned about his future employment, even as to what his prospects might be beyond Clemson.
College coaching can be a tough row to hoe. But you just can’t allow guys to use the media spotlight to go blowing crap all over young kids like Jones and Scott and showering falsehoods over an important state institution like the University.
Am I sympathetic if he loses his job and has his career affected by a mistake of the moment? Sure I am. But that doesn’t matter. This is just one of those places where you have to stop, and you have to draw a line.
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I think it’s frustration and fear over the kind of recruiting class Alabama pulled in this year. He knows Clemson couldn’t match Alabama’s recruiting success last year and after all the well deserved hype the freshmen have gotten coming through fall practice he’s got to be more than a little worried about August 30th.
So the guy can shoot his mouth off all he wants, and make all the jokes about Alabama buying players cars. When I hear things like this I smile cause I believe he’s truly worried about the impact Julio and the other big recruits will have on Alabama this year and in years to come. And in my opinion he’s right to be nervous.
Comment by TheKid — August 26, 2008 @ 12:42 am
TheKid, I think you’re right from a Bama fan’s perspective. Koenning’s statements smell of fear and they’re just one more reason for us to have a good feeling about this game.
But I’m serious about calling for him to apologize or be fired. There are people up in South Carolina who will believe him, so he’s got no business flapping his trap like that. It’s hard to think of anything less professional for somebody who works with young men than to make character accusations to the press about 18-year-olds you hardly know.
Comment by glen55 — August 26, 2008 @ 12:50 am
Gotta agree with TheKid about the smile on our face. It’s kinda flattering that he’s so jealous. Serious and sad, true…but flattering. This kind of yacking used to p*ss me off, but now it’s getting so much easier to sit back, grin and “let them talk”.
Thanks again for all the great posts and hard work. This is the number one info site for me about anything on Bama football.
Comment by taylor — August 26, 2008 @ 1:09 am
That is irresponsible and absurd….that sounds like some good locker room material to me
Comment by MattRP — August 26, 2008 @ 6:45 am
Just for the record, Vic Koenning is correct. The same story was widely reported about Julio driving an crimson Escalade around Foley in December before signing day.
The interesting bit of information that wasn’t provided, the Escalade had a front tag that said, “University of Oklahoma”. The SUV belongs to OU grad that was dating Julio’s mother.
There’s no reason to allow a partial fact to interfere with a good story. So much for ethical journalism.
Comment by Noah.Dreams — August 26, 2008 @ 9:39 am
Noah, if your “ethical journalism” shot is aimed at me, then, even assuming your first-person account to be true:
(1) I’m not a journalist, I’m a blogger. Journalists get paid;
(2) I was clear that I was speculating about whether or not Koenning was correct, and in fact I specifically wrote that “I don’t know about Julio’s ride;” and
(3) Koenning STILL has no business running his yap in a fashion that implies what he implied unless he knows something more than he’s saying.
Comment by glen55 — August 26, 2008 @ 10:03 am
Glen55 - I’m questioning the Clemson beat writer Paul Strelow from the SC newspaper THE STATE. He should’ve checked the facts first.
http://pstrelow.thestateonline.com/?p=115
Comment by Noah.Dreams — August 26, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Thanks for both your comments, Noah. Sorry if I jumped a bit overboard, but I’ll make no bones about being aggressive defending my turf, and your first post was a bit ambiguous.
Comment by glen55 — August 26, 2008 @ 11:38 am
Yea he definitely didn’t apologize for his remarks. He obviously still believes in them and is using the patented excuse “I don’t know why you’re making such a big deal out of this”. If he hasn’t heard from the compliance office he should.
Oh and Glen I don’t think Koenning was referring to his comments as the truth, rather making a claim that it was the media that was lying. At least that’s how I read it the first time. Course he could really believe in what he said.
What Koenning really doesn’t seem to grasp is that even if he was only joking a person in his position can’t make a joke like that in public. Like you said Glen, he’s been around. He knows better.
Comment by TheKid — August 26, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
And not only in public, but to the media and ON THE RECORD.
IMO, it would’ve been better for him to just clam up about it than to try to make excuses. As they say, the first rule of what to do when you find yourself in a deep hole is “stop digging.”
By the way, I’ve been checking out a Bamaonline thread on the subject as a way to monitor Bama fan reaction, and believe me, there is very very very little sympathy for Koenning and his excuses.
Comment by glen55 — August 26, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
Well I guess South Alabama is not going to be a very friendly area for Clemson to recruit from in the future. With that new revelation Koenning better just hide in that hole.
Comment by TheKid — August 26, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
Koenning takes blame for controversy
http://pstrelow.thestateonline.com/?p=119
The heat is on now.
Glen - I apologize for being ambiguous.
Comment by Noah.Dreams — August 26, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
Noah, I’ll accept your apology for being ambiguous if you’ll accept mine for interpreting your ambiguity harshly. . . .
Comment by glen55 — August 26, 2008 @ 3:46 pm